What's It All About?

By on April 8, 2010 in Daily Mathematics, Uncategorized

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y_e7Z7coek&feature=player_embedded

KRS 1 Speaking on behalf of the Hip Hop Pioneers and their reasons behind why they’re boycotting the National Museum of HipHop.

I was confused. I think I can see both points, which led me to an even more interesting point. Who owes the Pioneers? It seems that there is some discrepancy with some $$$ that folks should be given and who’s right it is to even build the HipHop Museum. While there is no question that the pioneers should not be feasting off of crumbs, an interesting question is: who’s responsibility is it to make sure they’re fed?Should anyone who has made an album give a percentage back to Bambaata and Herc? HipHop is a billion dollar industry based on what these dj’s did in the park. There is no doubting the global influence. I think a National Museum of HipHop is a great honor and would help to make sure that our History doesn’t become His Story. Still there is politics at every level. See if you can make any sense out of this. Shouts out to the homie JillzWorth who shot me the link earlier.

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  • sugr

    The pioneers should get put on retainer fees, and paid for making personal appearances, rental of their collectibles, and rights to use their image, and copyrights.

    Herc should have the same kind of relationship Yogi Berra has with the Yanks, or Willie Mays has with the SF Giants.

    It’s in the museums best interest to keep them healthy, and rewarded. The flipside is, they have been talking about putting a museum in the Bronx for years, and it never had wings. Zulu Nation couldn’t fund it, and barely anyone goes out to their events, or any events for the old school.

    These people get offered so many opportunities that would gain awareness for what they contributed but they turn it down again and again because it’s not a financial gain for them.
    Meanwhile, KRS listed a bunch of well known pioneers, and that’s all good, but there’s a whole other deeper level of originals who aren’t in the history books at all. All these so called pioneers know who they are but they won’t name them because that would mean sharing the spotlight and a possible paycheck.

  • http://thetonygrands.wordpress.com Tony Grands™

    It would be virtually impossible to acknowledge all the cats who were there for the beginning. It’s probably tantamount to tracing your roots to thank a specific ancestor for your eye color @ this point in the culture.

    The thing about a cultural movement is that there are going to be the pivotal activists who barely get the credit, be it monetary or otherwise, but that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve it, it just shows that life is a continuation of events & circumstances. Even those of utmost importance get phased out eventually. It shouldn’t be taken personally, though.

    Hip Hop has always kind of governed itself, so if we never wanted that outside management, who do we blame in this type of situation?

    Sadly, us.

  • sugr

    “It would be virtually impossible to acknowledge all the cats who were there for the beginning.”

    There are a hand full of major, major contributors who never make it into the official version of the story. It would be possible to name them, but it would mean someone like Herc, who already feels slighted, would have to share what little limelight he gets. Meanwhile Herc was driving a delivery truck, last I heard.

  • http://thetonygrands.wordpress.com Tony Grands™

    “Meanwhile Herc was driving a delivery truck, last I heard.”

    ^^^
    I don’t doubt that that’s true, unfortunately. I guess it’s evident that with all the “pay it forward” in Hip Hop, nobody deems it important to “pay it backward.”

    It may be somewhat silly of me to think this, but Herc should be in somebody’s office, helping facilitate the culture in some form or fashion. Even a “custodial” position would at least mean he’s helping to keep things tidy. This is why I said “we”, the culture itself, is/are the reason the pioneers aren’t recognized. I’m apt to believe more in a Hip Hop convelescent home than a Hip Hop museum, feel me? SMH.

    Not for nothing, but didn’t Souljah Boy say “fuck you” to Ice-T, or something like that? No elder respect, no history acknowledgment, & that mentality is horrible, to say the least.

  • Curtis75Black

    Unfortunately for our culture, we are a “Let Me Get Mine 1st” agenda and it always been that way. The pioneers of our culture deserve respect and props but until our culture stops sucking Mainstreams Dick and get on their own grind, repping our own award shows with a real presence of Hip Hop History, not just giving a longevity award to a Vet emcee, nothings gonna change. Sorry to say but Kool Herc who was been shouted out from everyone from KRS to LL on tracks and Afrika Bam who’s music has been used by countless classic emcees missed the boat and if they really want this to happen the right way, they have enough history and love from Hip Hop I’m itself to get it done and funded by every prominent emcee, Producer and fan alive today. Expecting it to be given to them is a lost cause. They have to take this by storm just like we infultrated the masses 30 plus years ago.

  • Ron Lee

    RICK ROSS-SUPER HIGH. I wanna be clear, i really hate this dude. But this song really makes it hard to hate him. If you say you ain’t feelin this song you’re lying. by the way, its fuckin clark kent with some shit i wish he had on reasonable doubt. sorry this has nothing to do with your post, but this song deserves its own post. This dude ross got the best ear for beats i’ve seen from any rapper in a long time.

  • Bx Blue

    I’m pretty sad that this website has fallen off so so hard. I used to check for this everyday, now it’s just depressing. C’mon Jack, step it back up!

  • sugr

    Tony Grands™
    April 13th, 2010 at 5:10 am · Reply
    “Meanwhile Herc was driving a delivery truck, last I heard.”
    ^^^
    I don’t doubt that that’s true, unfortunately.”

    You doubt?

    I’m telling you. He worked for a mail delivery carrier, dropping packages.

  • http://thetonygrands.wordpress.com Tony Grands™

    sugr-

    I said “I don’t doubt that that’s true.”

    That means I believe(d) you.

  • http://www.nustylze.com Urban Clothing

    This is why people who don’t like hip hop and the culture will never like it. And all the “pioneers” can say the new generation has changed the culture but they are proving that it has always been this way. The museum is a way to give our art form to the world. our own hip hop renissance if you will. But of course the same old song of me me me me me!! comes out agan. If these guys want money why dont they ask to be part of an overseeing committee to help ensure hip hop is seen in a positive light. And if these want to boycott then fine let them. And make a point in the museum that these guys were too errogant to want to progress hip hop further so the whole world could appreciate. Even though thats what they have been talking about all this time. We have to get out of our own way and exchange the “me” mentality with a “we” mentality.

  • http://www.twitter.com/marcusrespekt Marcus Respekt

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